Episodes

Dec. 19, 2023

Jaime Wyatt

I was already a Jaime Wyatt fan before we talked, but our shared affinity for the poet E.E. Cummings made this episode even more fun. I also knew this would be a good convo after reading an Instagram post where Wyatt declare...

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Nov. 29, 2023

Buffalo Nichols

"The times when I'm writing the most are when I'm reading a lot," Carl "Buffalo" Nichols says on today's podcast. And wow is this true: you cannot be a writer of any stripe unless you read. Nichols likes to read voices that h...

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Nov. 8, 2023

Duff McKagan of Guns N' Roses

Duff McKagan's latest solo album Lighthouse is dedicated to Cormac McCarthy, which is no surprise given the importance McKagan places on reading. The Guns N' Roses bassist reads without fail every day, so you get some great ...

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Oct. 27, 2023

Jonny Pierce of The Drums

Jonny Pierce says that The Drums’ new album Jonny is “a little less practice, a little more mess.” That messiness finally made songwriting enjoyable for him because for a long time, it wasn’t. “I never loved songwriting. I wa...

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Oct. 12, 2023

Clem Creevy of Cherry Glazerr

“I’m allergic to routine. I wake up and follow all my whims and desires. But inspiration strikes every couple of days, and when it does you don’t want to be around me because I have a one track mind,” Clem Creevy of Cherry Gl...

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Sept. 28, 2023

Genesis Owusu

Genesis Owusu is the first songwriter to cite Samuel Beckett’s "Waiting for Godot" and Franz Kafka's "The Metamorphosis" as influences. Owusu stops by the podcast to talk about why he's such a huge fan of Beckett and Kafka, w...

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Sept. 16, 2023

Devendra Banhart

"If you're writing alone, you're still collaborating," Devendra Banhart says on this episode of the podcast. I love that idea: even in solitary writing, you're always running ideas by yourself. Is it the unconscious against t...

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Sept. 10, 2023

M.C. Taylor of Hiss Golden Messenger

“Surprising yourself is the only way to stay inspired,” M.C. Taylor of Hiss Golden Messenger says in this episode of the podcast. This is the second time I've interviewed Taylor, and here are three things I love about him: He...

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Aug. 28, 2023

Blondshell

Sabrina Teitelbaum (aka Blondshell ) wants more joy in her songs. But that can be a problem because happiness is not a productive state for her songwriting process. "When I'm happy, I don't feel the need to write as much," s...

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Aug. 23, 2023

Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads

At some point in my interview with Jerry Harrison, guitarist and keyboardist for Talking Heads , I asked him to respond to a quote by the iconic Beat poet Allen Ginsberg. Harrison told me that Ginsberg was a friend. And that ...

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Aug. 17, 2023

Jenny Owen Youngs

Jenny Owen Youngs had me at " Shitty First Drafts ." This is the Anne Lamott essay espousing the idea that the first draft of anything is supposed to be atrocious. Just get it down, dammit. "Almost all good writing begins wit...

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July 28, 2023

Bethany Cosentino

ED note: I mispronounced Cosentino’s name in the podcast intro: the first “o” should be long (as in snow ), but I used a short “o” (as in top) . I’m sorry Bethany! If you have plans to meet Bethany Cosentino and she’s late, l...

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July 19, 2023

John McCauley & Ian O'Neil of Deer Tick

John McCauley and Ian O’Neil of Deer Tick stop by talk about what makes for an effective songwriting process. In no particular order: laundry rooms, a kitchen, a nice rug, running shoes, recumbent bikes, Raymond Carver, and t...

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July 3, 2023

Emile Mosseri

Academy Award nominee Emile Mosseri stops by the podcast to talk about the challenges that come with writing a solo album when all you’ve known is collaboration (his time in The Dig ) and film & television composing (like his...

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June 16, 2023

Josh Ritter

Josh Ritter stops by Songwriters on Process to declare that while we like to think he writes with a quill pen, he actually writes almost all of his lyrics on his phone. That's a first: many songwriters tell me they write on a...

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June 5, 2023

Jess Williamson

"I'm pretty much always thinking about lyrics every day of my life." That quote represents the energy that Jess Williamson brings to this episode of the podcast. Her level of introspection and enthusiasm made this conversatio...

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May 14, 2023

Etta Friedman & Allegra Weingarten of Momma

"We don't write on lined paper. That's a big no-no." This episode with Etta Friedman and Allegra Weingarten of Momma goes deep. We dig into the whys of the writing process, not just the hows. We also discuss, for example, why...

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May 2, 2023

Dave Lombardo of Slayer, Testament, Mr. Bungle

"A washing machine with a clumpy pair of shoes can be a beautiful thing." Legendary drummer Dave Lombardo, a founding member of Slayer, finds beauty in the mundane. And also in the annoying: "Even the rhythm of a jackhammer a...

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April 20, 2023

Joseph

Sisters Natalie, Allison, and Meegan from Joseph talk about their individual and collective songwriting processes in this episode. And in that discussion, they each learn something about the others that they didn't know! Jos...

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April 11, 2023

Eric D. Johnson of Fruit Bats/Bonny Light Horseman

"I'm a wrong hallway person. I like to make wrong turns." Eric D. Johnson of Fruit Bats and Bonny Light Horseman makes a lot of mistakes. And that's a good thing, he says, because that's when the good stuff happens. "The exci...

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March 29, 2023

Amy Ray (Indigo Girls) and H.C. McEntire

"I've written whole songs on dog walks," says Amy Ray of The Indigo Girls . "I write a lot when I'm on the lawnmower, says H.C. McEntire . What a great time this was listening to these two friends and fantastic songwriters g...

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March 19, 2023

Alex Skolnick of Testament

(NOTE: This interview is from December 2020. I've converted the video to podcast form. You can watch the interview here .) It's like opening a time capsule now when I listen to songwriters talk in 2020 about how they were nav...

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March 9, 2023

Shana Cleveland of La Luz

"All the time in the world is too much pressure." Shana Cleveland of La Luz prefers a good deadline when she writes songs. And with a toddler in the house, her day is nothing but deadlines, which are also known as When Your C...

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Feb. 23, 2023

Sara Watkins of Nickel Creek

I first interviewed Sara Watkins of Nickel Creek in 2013, and this latest conversation reminded me why she is one one of my favorite interviews. The thoughtfulness and introspection she brings to this discussion are wonderful...

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