Episodes

June 16, 2023

Josh Ritter

Josh Ritter stops by Songwriters on Process to declare that while we like to think he writes with a quill pen, he actually writes almost all of his lyrics on his phone. That's a first: many songwriters tell me they write on a...

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June 5, 2023

Jess Williamson

"I'm pretty much always thinking about lyrics every day of my life." That quote represents the energy that Jess Williamson brings to this episode of the podcast. Her level of introspection and enthusiasm made this conversatio...

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May 14, 2023

Etta Friedman & Allegra Weingarten of Momma

"We don't write on lined paper. That's a big no-no." This episode with Etta Friedman and Allegra Weingarten of Momma goes deep. We dig into the whys of the writing process, not just the hows. We also discuss, for example, why...

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May 2, 2023

Dave Lombardo of Slayer, Testament, Mr. Bungle

"A washing machine with a clumpy pair of shoes can be a beautiful thing." Legendary drummer Dave Lombardo, a founding member of Slayer, finds beauty in the mundane. And also in the annoying: "Even the rhythm of a jackhammer a...

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April 20, 2023

Joseph

Sisters Natalie, Allison, and Meegan from Joseph talk about their individual and collective songwriting processes in this episode. And in that discussion, they each learn something about the others that they didn't know! Jos...

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April 11, 2023

Eric D. Johnson of Fruit Bats/Bonny Light Horseman

"I'm a wrong hallway person. I like to make wrong turns." Eric D. Johnson of Fruit Bats and Bonny Light Horseman makes a lot of mistakes. And that's a good thing, he says, because that's when the good stuff happens. "The exci...

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March 29, 2023

Amy Ray (Indigo Girls) and H.C. McEntire

"I've written whole songs on dog walks," says Amy Ray of The Indigo Girls . "I write a lot when I'm on the lawnmower, says H.C. McEntire . What a great time this was listening to these two friends and fantastic songwriters g...

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March 19, 2023

Alex Skolnick of Testament

(NOTE: This interview is from December 2020. I've converted the video to podcast form. You can watch the interview here .) It's like opening a time capsule now when I listen to songwriters talk in 2020 about how they were nav...

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March 9, 2023

Shana Cleveland of La Luz

"All the time in the world is too much pressure." Shana Cleveland of La Luz prefers a good deadline when she writes songs. And with a toddler in the house, her day is nothing but deadlines, which are also known as When Your C...

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Feb. 23, 2023

Sara Watkins of Nickel Creek

I first interviewed Sara Watkins of Nickel Creek in 2013, and this latest conversation reminded me why she is one one of my favorite interviews. The thoughtfulness and introspection she brings to this discussion are wonderful...

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Feb. 12, 2023

Philip Selway of Radiohead

Philip Selway , Radiohead 's drummer, says that his best writing happens when "I'm looking the other way. My songs come along when they choose." But while Selway may prefer to wait for the muse, there are a few things he does...

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Jan. 29, 2023

Liz Stokes of The Beths

I love The Beths ! So talking to Liz Stokes was a blast. The band's new album Expert in a Dying Field was on almost every 2022 year-end "best of" list. Listen to Stokes talk about the importance of journaling to her songwrit...

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Jan. 8, 2023

The Lone Bellow

On this week's episode, I talk to all three members of The Lone Bellow ! Zach Williams, Kanene Pipkin, and Brian Elmquist go deep into their songwriting processes and even learn a few things about each other that they didn't...

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Dec. 24, 2022

Aly and AJ

Aly and AJ Michalka have been writing and recording songs together since they were teenagers. It’s easy to see why: their processes are remarkably in sync. Listen to the sisters talk about this smooth creative relationship,...

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Dec. 14, 2022

Tim Burgess of The Charlatans

"I'm so much more prolific when I exercise." Tim Burgess of The Charlatans admitted to me during episode 55 of the podcast that "rock stars aren't supposed to exercise, but we all have our secrets, don't we?" Well, the cat's ...

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Nov. 29, 2022

Dave Hause and Kathleen Edwards

"When I sit down to write, the house has to be clean. Also, the dogs have to be walked because they need to fuck off and leave me alone," Kathleen Edwards told me. Now in podcast form, my 2020 joint interview with Edwards and...

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Nov. 13, 2022

S.G. Goodman

S.G. Goodman was raised a farmer's daughter and studied philosophy in college. This means that not only does she love to ponder, she has time do it during those long days in the field. The product of all the pondering: amazin...

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Oct. 30, 2022

Julian Lage

Julian Lage has been hailed as one of the "most prodigious guitarists of his generation," so this was a new one for me: an interview with a songwriter who doesn't write lyrics, only instrumentals. As someone steeped in improv...

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Oct. 20, 2022

Gavin Rossdale of Bush

“A good song has fragmented fireworks. It needs to pull people in with interesting turns of phrases, word combinations that no one has heard before.” Hear Gavin Rossdale of Bush explain why the painters Francis Bacon and Luci...

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Oct. 7, 2022

Grian Chatten of Fontaines D.C.

"I write all day, every day. When I'm in the thick of it, it's a struggle to focus on anything else." For Grian Chatten of Fontaines D.C. , there’s no such thing as a writing ritual if you never stop writing. He calls his w...

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Sept. 24, 2022

Madison Cunningham

"When you have a regimen, it's ok to let up on yourself. Because you know that tomorrow, you'll be doing it again." Madison Cunningham firmly believes in the writer's regimen. You have to put in the work every day. None of th...

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Sept. 12, 2022

Will Sheff of Okkervil River

"If I have one piece of advice to give, it would be to write something the moment you wake up." Will Sheff of Okkervil River likes a good writing ritual. He believes in writing every day, just as a professional athlete needs ...

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Aug. 31, 2022

Emily Haines of Metric

In most workplaces, falling asleep on the job is not a good thing. But if you’re in Metric , Emily Haines says it's a great thing. In fact, she and her bandmates love it when they catch each other napping in the studio. Bec...

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Aug. 24, 2022

Matt Nathanson and Butch Walker

"I still have your cutlery, by the way," Butch Walker tells Matt Nathanson in this episode. Nathanson's latest album Boston Accent was produced by Walker. And while the two may have shared kitchen space and maybe even a uten...

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